by Glenn N. Holliman
All, the following appeared this morning, a free blog to which I subscribe. In lieu of American's most recent mass killing, a down home Texas lady writes to her friend Margaret. For those out side of the Southern United States, Helen expresses her feeling 'with the bark off'. Your comments as ever welcome.
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COMMENTS - The Comments have been coming fast and thick on Margaret's letter to Helen!
From the English Midlands -
Dear Glenn,
You wrote me privately noting how much I deplore American policy on gun control. What policy? There isn't one. As for 'politicising' the most recent outrage, what else can your president do? His appeals to common sense are ignored every time. The Republicans won't support his policies, even though he was democratically elected, and his own party dare not, lest even they sacrifice votes to the gun lobby.
Your fellow blogger, linking abortion and gun control, is cynically spot-on.
I sigh, despairingly, with you.
From a Dear Cousin in Alabama -
So not true, and unkind, Cuz!
From a Judge in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania -
Not sure what new laws in PA could be passed on control other than confiscation. We in central PA are all for that along with banning automobiles, knives, baseball bats, drug needles, medical malpractice, exhaust fumes, etc.
One nut comes out all too frequently and millions of non-nuts all look like mean spirited radical right wing Christian jerks who have lots of thoughts and positions other than dictated by the NRA.
The blog has truth and a right to expression but is insulting to many and that is OK. As a very general statement, I see considerable hypocrisy in the abortion, gun use analogy much as I see it in those who oppose the death penalty but support abortion.
Keep in mind the President laments his failure in the gun control area. He sees the solution as banning, I believe. Of course he will politicize each incident.
One nut comes out all too frequently and millions of non-nuts all look like mean spirited radical right wing Christian jerks who have lots of thoughts and positions other than dictated by the NRA.
The blog has truth and a right to expression but is insulting to many and that is OK. As a very general statement, I see considerable hypocrisy in the abortion, gun use analogy much as I see it in those who oppose the death penalty but support abortion.
Keep in mind the President laments his failure in the gun control area. He sees the solution as banning, I believe. Of course he will politicize each incident.
From a Second Cousin in East Tennessee -
Yep!
From a Third Cousin in Texas -
Hi Glen,
Yes … “sigh”. I agree that this country needs to do something about keeping guns out of the hands of “radicals” and the mentally ill. I find it interesting to note that though President Obama rails about needing gun laws changes, throughout his 1st term with a Democratic Congress and Senate, nothing was done in this regard.
But, the outlandish headline statement of this blog is really over the top! While millions of humans have been killed, in-utero, Margaret compares this nation’s “mass killings” to the murder of over 55 million babies since Roe vs. Wade in 1973 … over nine times more lives than lost in the Jewish holocaust. At least she acknowledged that a number (actually it’s most!) of them were unwanted babies.
According to a press report, the shooter had some of the students lie down and then get up one at a time. When they got up, he asked them “what religion are you”. If they said Christian, he shot them. This sounds like a radical terrorist to me. Hopefully the authorities will be able to sort this out during their investigations.
Again, I’m all for instituting a national background check for anyone purchasing a gun, be it from a store or an individual. This check could also be utilized to identify anyone with a current mental disability (if they were registered). Of course, this has only been moderately effective in countries that have instituted registrations, or even bans on weapons.
All of this being said, I am also a firm believer in our 2nd Amendment right to own a gun … be it for protection, hunting, target shooting, etc. Of course this does not get rid of the 10’s of thousands of guns currently in the hands of gangs and hoodlums … but that would need to be handled by law enforcement. God help us if the Government ever tried to confiscate all of the guns legally owned by U.S. Citizens.
From the Cotswolds in England, a former Police Officer -
Hi Glen
I had to look up the meaning of ‘with the bark off’, and am glad I did. I had assumed the ‘bark’ was that of a dog and that speaking with it off simply meant toning down any aggression and speaking in a controlled manner. Just goes to show how misunderstandings can arise even when the language seems clear.
From a well-read Chemist (Pharmacist) near Oxford, England -
From a well-read Chemist (Pharmacist) near Oxford, England -
Really interesting the
links and thoughts you are sending us regarding gun law.
There will always be people like that but mercifully in this country it is not so easy to find the means to react like that. They just mutter and send hurtful tweets which, though still horrible, don't kill.
What answers do the gun lobby in the US have to these shootings?
We find
the "logic" impossible to understand. It seems blindingly obvious to
me that if you give crazy person with a grievance a gun they will probably use
it.
There will always be people like that but mercifully in this country it is not so easy to find the means to react like that. They just mutter and send hurtful tweets which, though still horrible, don't kill.
What answers do the gun lobby in the US have to these shootings?
From a Librarian in Richmond, Virginia -
Hear! Hear!
From a Law School Dean in Pennsylvania -
I think that her
insight is excellent. And so is her satiric sense. Particularly
endorse her opinion that our legislators will do ANYTHING to get a vote--alas,
too true.
From a Pennsylvania Farmer's wife -
I deplore the death penalty. I consider myself in favor of life. But my heart goes out to those women for whom circumstances have conspired to make them pregnant from rape or incest, or when they feel emotionally or financially unable to care for a child. Quoting Pope Francis in a different situation, "who are [we] to judge" a woman's heart? Margaret's blog seems to me to be the voice of millions of American women crying to be heard. Our voices are drowned out, ignored or overridden by men who think they are "taking care of us." LISTEN TO US! We are people too.
From another Cousin from Alabama -
From one of our English Thinkers in Normandy, France -
Glenn,
From our biography and playwright from Australia -
From a Pennsylvania Farmer's wife -
I deplore the death penalty. I consider myself in favor of life. But my heart goes out to those women for whom circumstances have conspired to make them pregnant from rape or incest, or when they feel emotionally or financially unable to care for a child. Quoting Pope Francis in a different situation, "who are [we] to judge" a woman's heart? Margaret's blog seems to me to be the voice of millions of American women crying to be heard. Our voices are drowned out, ignored or overridden by men who think they are "taking care of us." LISTEN TO US! We are people too.
From another Cousin from Alabama -
Thanks cousin. I think
this Texas lady is “spot on”!
From one of our English Thinkers in Normandy, France -
Glenn,
It is easy for us
sanctimonious Europeans to say there should be enhanced gun controls, although
what good that would do in a nation possessed of 400 million guns I do not
know.
I am more interested
in alienation, social fragmentation, purposeless lives, people with
industrially educated blank sheets of paper between their ears.
In short,
de-industrialised life in the west - and particularly in the United States of
America leaves individuals free from the social constraints of mutuality of
obligation that has been a continuous feature of life for people since the dawn
of consciousness.
We live in times where the body of people in a society accept
the isolation of many of their number as the unspoken price of their continued
survival. This killer is the same as many, and is the product of our lives, our
values, our fears, and is a price we are, quit clearly from our soggy
sanctimonious reactions, quite willing to continue to pay. The NRA reflects all
our natures.
Just as I, my
ancestors, and my neighbours in Europe are responsible for the slaughters that
disfigure this continent. I am more than my brothers' keeper. I am his corrupter. So are you; so are we all.
Hi there Glenn
I know the situation seems hopeless – confiscating, what was it?
400 million guns in the US. I can only (hopefully NOT sanctimoniously) say that
a former PM of ours, John Howard, was brave enough to bring in a law banning
all AUTOMATIC and SEMI-AUTOMATIC weapons except for official use. The
self-interested ones all tried lame excuses such as ‘the baddies will still get
them, but through the back door illegally’. Well yes, I’m sure some of that did
and does happen, but overall everyone is happier and safer. The farmers can
still own rifles and shoot rabbits and foxes, the gun sports clubs can still
shoot rifles at their targets, but it simply makes it much harder or likely
that there will be fast firing guns sitting in people’s homes. We can bang on
about society’s deficiencies all we like, and boy have we got some, but the
first thing that poor Obama needs to impress, SOMEHOW, on the gun lobby is to
volunteer to eschew automatic and semiautomatic weapons unless for condoned
official use.
It won’t stop all shootings, but it will help to reduce these
episodes of mass murders.
God help Obama, because the Gun Lobby won’t.
Steph Mc from Down Under
My thanks to all for sharing comments from three continents. The goal of this blog is to share opinions and listen to each other. When we listen, we have a chance to ponder and consider how the world might seem to some one else. GNH
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